[tldoc] suggestions for the doc section 3.4.5 context lmtx and mkiv

[Norbert Preining]

Hi Carlos,

I am late in the game, but just a comment from my side as author of most
of the tools mentioned here.

We had and always have to work around the "peculiarities" or context
(not using kpathsea, using their own format building stuff, ...) and we
have done this since 20 years or so now.

I am more than happy to include new incantations of context with
whatever is hip today (and will surely be outdated in 3 years again,
mostly to *our* pain and not anyone's else).

That said, we *expect* a certain level of cooperation and adherence with
how we do things.

If you want an honest discussion here, make yourself very deeply
knowledgable about how TeX Live and install-tl/tlmgr works, and *then*
starting overly heated debates.

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023, Carlos wrote:
> In other words. Any future error, should be taken up with the developers of
> ConTeXt. And this begets the following question:
> 
> Have you or the users of ConTeXt taken the time of the day to generate the
> formats, and trees, and fonts from ConTeXt, within a subdirectory owned not
> by the user, regardless of read-write-execute permissions, inside a
> directory owned by the user?

No, because this is NOT how TeX Live works. Take it or leave it.
We are more than happy to drop stuff that works against our policies,
and one of that is ability to support multiple users.

And we will NOT work around another 15 corners to get things working for
another change in how context formats work.

> files, for that matter. How about viceversa? How about changing ownership
> before ConTeXt --generate is invoked? What are the results? Now. How about
> if the changes do not affect ownership but rather some write, read, execute
> permissions from these files (subdirectories), after and before ConTeXt
> --generate?
> 
> That's the question.

The quesion is, why is `context --generate` *always* special ...?

Best

Norbert

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