[tldoc] TeXLive plans in writing the documentation: will be human or chatgpt generated text?

[Carlos]

On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 08:39:32AM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Hi Carlos,
> 
> thanks for your long message, but I think you got a few things up-side-down ;-)
> 
> On Wed, 07 Jun 2023, Carlos wrote:
> > that TUG seems to be now in cahoots with chatgpt.
> 
> Whatever being in cahoots might mean, rest assured, we have not been bought
> by any of the big LLM-using companies.
> 

The monetization part was visualized only by you. No one else so far.
Would this imply that the post by TUG is a sleight-of-hand maneuver
so chatgpt or any other tool by these LLM-using companies is gradually
introduced in the future?

Or would this imply for that matter, that your mindset was in a
profit-driven delusion after reading what I wrote? 

I don't think my ramblings dealt with that at all.

> > As a result of this and since it seems clear to me that TUG is
> > promoting the use of chatgpt to look up and generate in TeX code all
> > sort of formulas, such as Euler's for example 
> 
> No, the TUG is not promoting. Discussing current developments and their
> use is not a promotion nor endorsement.

Perhaps the term ‹promotion› was not quite precise nor accurate,
but certainly the lines posted enticing users to make use of chatgpt
were typed out as its usage (that of using chatgpt on a TeX document)
was an acceptable practice in any TeX file from now on

> 
> > Apart from being just a shortcut to laziness which promotes entitlement
> > to all, including students; my question, in retrospect is: will the
> > documentation in the manual, with you as its main author, follow the
> > same steps as its parent's decisions (TUG's decisions) and perhaps
> > replace some/almost all/ text/writing in the manual through other
> > methods such as the ones exploited at large by chatgpt now (your
> > own included)?
> 
> Rest assured!
> 
> And for the rest of your modern technology panic driven "ramblings" 
> (as you called them) - LLM based systems are a tool, like many other 
> tools. They can be used in a good way and in a bad way. Life goes on.
> As a great engineer once said: In the future, ChatGPT/etc will not
> take over our job as engineers, it will not be GPT versus engineers,
> it will be engineers using GPT versus engineers not using GPT. It is
> up to you to choose the tools you like.
> 
> But please, spare us with any further technology ramblings.
> 

Not panic driven. I've simply seen many many posts in the TeX community
dealing with chatgpt now. And I never assume — unlike you — that a concern
is invalid simply because it falls off the narrative that wants to be
projected.

> Thanks in advance
> 
> Norbert
> 
> (my only message in this thread)

The most rational decision at the moment. :)

Take care Norbert. 

I forgot to say: thank you for your work. And I mean it.

> 
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