[texhax] Questions about flowfram

Thu Oct 20 18:51:49 CEST 2011

Mine was a very simplified example, just to illustrate the problem of
reusing page layouts.  In real life, each "letter" would be like an InDesign
document, with multiple frames on a page, with text flowing from frame to
frame on a page, and from page to page.  I'm trying to imitate the
flexibility of InDesign layouts.  I'm pretty sure flowfram is the only
package that provides that flexibility.

But the problem here is one of turning frames on and off, in effect, so that
the start of each letter has one set of frames, and pages 2-n have a
different set.

Thanks,
-pd

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Uwe Ziegenhagen <ziegenhagen at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> From the template you gave I cannot see anything which couldn't be done
> with scrlttr2.
>
>

> Here a multi-page template, in German:
>
>
> \documentclass[DIN,pagenumber=false,parskip=full,fontsize=12pt,fromalign=center,fromrule=aftername,fromfax=true,fromemail=true,fromphone=true,fromurl=true,numericaldate=true]{scrlttr2}
> %pagenumber=false, bot, botright, botleft
> %parskip=full,
> %fontsize=12pt,10pt
> %fromrule=aftername,afteraddress
> \usepackage[german]{babel}
> \usepackage[]{blindtext}
> \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
> \setkomavar{customer}[Kunden-ID]{uz2002-2384757}
> %\setkomavar{date}{04.09.2002}
> \setkomavar{fromurl}{www.mustermann.de}
> \setkomavar{fromemail}{hans at mustermann.de}
> \setkomavar{fromfax}{030-123-4567}
> \setkomavar{fromphone}{030-123-4568}
> \setkomavar{fromname}{Hans Mustermann}
> \setkomavar{fromaddress}{Musterweg 1 12345 Musterstadt}
> \setkomavar{invoice}{HM-2002-123}
> \setkomavar{myref}{HM020902/3}
> \setkomavar{subject}{Rückerstattung Lohnsteuer}
> \setkomavar{title}{Mahnung}
> \setkomavar{yourmail}{02.09.2002}
> \setkomavar{yourref}{müller2002}
> \setkomavar{frombank}{Konto 12\,345\,678\\
> bei der HansWurstBank\\
> BLZ 876\,543\,21}
>
> \firstfoot{%
> \parbox[t]{\textwidth}{\footnotesize
> \begin{tabular}[t]{l@{}}%
> \multicolumn{1}{@{}l@{}}{Gesellschafter:}\\
> Hugo Mayer\\
> Bernd Müller
> \end{tabular}%
> \hfill
> \begin{tabular}[t]{l@{}}%
> \multicolumn{1}{@{}l@{}}{Geschäftsführerin:}\\
> Liselotte Mayer\\[1ex]
> \multicolumn{1}{@{}l@{}}{Gerichtsstand:}\\
> Hinterdupfeldingen
> \end{tabular}%
> \ifkomavarempty{frombank}{}{%
> \hfill
> \begin{tabular}[t]{l@{}}%
> \multicolumn{1}{@{}l@{}}{\usekomavar*{frombank}:}\\
> \usekomavar{frombank}
> \end{tabular}%
> }%
> }%
> }
>
> \begin{document}
> \begin{letter}{Finanzamt Musterstadt \\ Musterweg 2\\12345 Musterstadt}
> \opening{Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,}
>
> hiermit bitte ich Sie letztmalig um Rückerstattung meiner gezahlten
> Lohnsteuer für die Jahre 1995-2001.
> \blindtext[10]
>
>
> \vspace{1cm}
> \encl{Anlage 1 \\ Anlage 2}
> \closing{Mit freundlichen Grüßen}
> \end{letter}
> \end{document}
>
> 2011/10/20 Peter Davis <pfd at pfdstudio.com>
>
>> I have an *almost* working version of this.  I'm attaching a short (though
>> not minimal) example that outputs three letters of different lengths.  Each
>> has a first page style which includes a logo in the upper left, and a later
>> page style which has no logo and a larger text flowframe.
>>
>> The problem is that after the first letter, the other letters get a first
>> page with a logo, but no text.  Then subsequent pages of the 2nd and 3rd
>> letters look ok.  Any clues about how to fix this would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -pd
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Peter Davis <pfd at pfdstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, I think I'm close to solving this problem.  I think the approach is
>>> to define a macro like:
>>>
>>> \newcommand{\newletter}{%
>>> \finishthispage%
>>> \setallflowframes{pages=none}%
>>> \setflowframes*{logo,address,firpagetext}{pages=\thepage}%
>>> \setflowframes*{laterpagetext}{pages={>\thepage}}}
>>>
>>> Then I just output that at the start of each letter.  I haven't tested
>>> this yet, but it seems about right based on my other experiments.  NOTE: I
>>> changed the staticframes for logo and address to flowframes here for
>>> simplicity.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -pd
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Peter Davis <pfd at pfdstudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Uwe.  No, the pages will all print on the same paper.  Only the
>>>> layout will vary between the first page and subsequent pages.  But
>>>> 1) I need the flexibility of flowfram, and
>>>> 2) all the letters will be in one document, so it may go something like:
>>>>
>>>> page 1: letter 1, first page
>>>> page 2: letter 1, second page
>>>> page 3: letter 2, first page
>>>> page 4: letter 3, first page
>>>> page 5: letter 3, second page
>>>> page 6: letter 3, third page
>>>> page 7: letter 4, first page
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> So pages 1, 3, 4 and 7 will use one layout, and the remaining pages will
>>>> use another.  The difficulty with using flowfram with this is that I don't
>>>> know in advance how many pages each letter will require.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -pd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Uwe Ziegenhagen <ziegenhagen at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So the paper itself is different for the different pages? If not the
>>>>> scrlttr2 class from the KOMA bundle has settings which differentiate between
>>>>> different page layout for the first and subsequent pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Uwe
>>>>>
>>>>> Von meinem iPad gesendet
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 20.10.2011 um 01:14 schrieb Peter Davis <pfd at pfdstudio.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, let me try this another way.  Suppose I'm creating a document which
>>>>> is really a bunch of letters that will get mailed out.  The first page of
>>>>> each letter should appear to be on letterhead stationery ... with logos,
>>>>> return address, etc.  The second an subsequent pages will be just plain.
>>>>>
>>>>> So when I define frames, I might do something like:
>>>>>
>>>>> \newstaticframe[1]{width}{height}{x}{y}{logo}
>>>>> \newstaticframe[1]{width}{height}{x}{y}{address}
>>>>> \newflowframe[1]{width}{height}{x}{y}{firstpagetext}
>>>>> \newflowframe[>1]{width}{height}{x}{y}{laterpagetext}
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, that's all well and good for one single letter.  But what if I want
>>>>> to do multiple letters of different lengths, one after another in one
>>>>> document?  Some are 1 page, some 2 and some 3.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any way to set the pages keyword for these frames to get them
>>>>> in the rightplaces?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any suggestions, pointers, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -pd
>>>>>
>>>>>
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